The very title of this forum kept me away. Why should the discussion of traffic and transit be limited to the Brownstone Belt of Brooklyn? Perhaps it's because the poor colored folk in Bushwich and Flatbush don't care about pedestrian amenities, safe streets for their kids, ample transit service, and free flowing arterials? Why should we only care about these issues in the white, gentrifying areas of Brooklyn? This latte sipping, Village Voice reading crowd of displaced Manhattanites that think they're so hip living in "Brownstone Brooklyn" really irritates me.

It's a completely false assumption to say that solving the traffic and transpo problems of Brownstone Brooklyn somehow has to make things worse for other Brooklyn neighborhoods and communities.

If you could have gotten around your own perception of what "Brownstone Brooklyn" means, you'd have found that most of the discussion was about how traffic and transpo problems in Downtown Brooklyn ripple out and impact neighborhoods all around Downtown Brooklyn. All neighborhoods. In the same ways.

That being said, there is no question that the neighborhoods abutting Downtown Brooklyn -- the area referred to as Brownstone Brooklyn, even when brownstones only cost $45,000 -- has very specific sets of problems and challenges that are quite different from the sections of Brooklyn further from the bridges and tunnel and less well-served by transit. Brownstone Brooklyn is a very natural constituency when it comes to transportation issues. Brownstone Brooklyn also shares a specific set of elected officials. It makes a lot of sense to set it as the boundary for this discussion.

We certainly could have lost the word "Brownstone" from the title. And I can definitely see your point about it being off-putting. But you've also got to keep in mind that this show was being put on by a neighborhood organization representing ONLY Park Slope. It was actually quite expansive of the Civic Council to all of the neighborhoods of "Brownstone Brooklyn." You'd be hard pressed to find a neighborhood group anywhere in NYC that fights for things that other neighborhoods need and care about.

To my mind, Brownstone Brooklyn is an extraordinarily diverse set of neighborhoods: from Wburg/Greenpoint to Crown Heights to Red Hook. If someone thinks that everyone living in Fort Greene, Clinton Hill, Crown Heights and all these other places are sitting around sipping lattes, then maybe they have been hanging out in hip coffee shops too much. Or maybe they're a real estate broker. I don't know. It's not at all homogeneous to my mind.

Bottom line: All of these big changes are going to start locally. And we're thinking locally and within the political precincts where we are able to make things happen. Nothing we're talking about precludes other neighborhoods from doing the same thing. Most of all, your criticism is annoying because it is so easy to make. Even if we did drop "Brownstone" from the title, you could still say we should have included all of New York City or the Tri-State Region or the United States for that matter. The transportation problem is obviously a lot bigger than one set of neighborhoods... That's why it is often so hard to push it to change. Enough...

The term "Brownstone Brooklyn" makes me think of the Huxtables and Bedford-Stuyvesant.

Aaron,

Your comment relating traffic to "nature" was as great analogy as I have heard in this city.

This is a good start, I really hope this becomes a travelling show to all neighborhoods as was suggested.

Anonymous,

If one is to believe the proponents of the Atlantic Yards project, 'poor colored folk' don't care about these issues; all they care about are jobs, housing and hoops.

But of course EVERYONE in Brooklyn cares about these things. However, since the Park Slope Civic Council represents what most would consider a "brownstone" neighborhood, perhaps they didn't feel they should presume to speak for all neighborhoods.

Rather than casting classist aspersions, you should have come to the forum to raise your point; which, to my mind, is a very valid point. People of all races and economic strata need to work together to solve the challenges that affect all of us, and sitting it out for a perceived titular slight is a pretty lame excuse.

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